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Date:2008-05-22 11:54

Just wondering if anyone has any good feminist Catholic (or even just general Christian) blog recommendations. I love a lot of the feminist blogs out there, but sometimes it would be nice to read more that don't see Christianity as irredeemably part of the patriarchy. Similarly, there are some Catholic blogs I really enjoy, but I would like to see more feminist analysis.


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Date:2007-12-30 15:43
Subject:reproductive morality and the law
Mood: curious

So just as a little preface to introduce myself, since I'm new to this comm: I am protestant (United Methodist) but I have Catholic roots in my family and was actually baptized Catholic as a baby. I am also working on a Masters in Pastoral Counseling at the School of Theology and Ministry in a Jesuit Catholic university (the STM provides both Catholic and ecumenical tracks) so many of my professors and classmates (who are becoming friends) are Catholic. I am really enjoying getting in touch with these roots a little bit more, and learning about the richness and depth of the Catholic tradition.

I'm generally one of these people that's more interested in what the various Christian sects have in common than what our differences are, but because of Catholicism in my family and my own history, I have still been very curious about things that are "distinctly Catholic." I've been learning recently about a lot of the rich theological language around sexuality and the importance of a sexual union bringing at least a possibility of new life... I may not completely agree with it, but I appreciate that things are not as simple as "birth control is bad; don't ask why" which seems to be a lot of what popular (non-Catholic) opinion is on the doctrine--like, the Catholics are just behind the times or something, instead of there really being something of substance here to talk about.

I've also noticed that lately, there are some conservative Catholic groups who are aligning themselves with the evangelical protestant Christians in the fight against abortion, but that it doesn't seem to be all of Catholicism doing this. Anyway, my question comes in here ... what are your thoughts on how much the Catholic ethic of sexuality and new life should be legislated? I guess I'm mostly interested in hearing from people who DO think that birth control is unethical for contraceptive purposes--do you think that the pill shouldn't be available at all as a contraception because of it's immorality? What about abortion, or the morning-after pill?

What I'm primarily interested in here is how people separate (or don't) their moral beliefs with what they would support being legislated. Here in the US, it seems the line between what is moral and what should be written into law is blurring a great deal lately, and I'm so interested in how people distinguish where that line is. I hope that's clear enough to get some good discussion :)

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Date:2007-07-18 17:51
Subject:Hierarchy of catholic Church/Gender?

Hi Everyone,

I grew up Catholic, and while I have a vague/general understanding of how the church works, I was wondering if any of you knew of any helpful sources (online or otherwise) that outline the catholic church's structure, particularly in relation to gender?

I'm creating a study guide for the play "Doubt" by John Patrick Shanley, which includes refernees to how (at least at certain historical moments, ie, the 1960s)...a priest and a nun were not allowed to be in a room together, without supervision.

So I'm both interested in the chain of command from pope-downward and of how nuns have historically fit into/complicated/etc that structure.


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Date:2007-04-07 14:26
Subject:Inspiring Women

A friend recently asked for my help in locating a book for her god-daughter who is about to be Confirmed. She's looking for something like inspiring biographies of women for young girls. I can't think of anything like it.

It sounds like a great idea though, a bit Victorian admittedly but it wouldn't have to be done like that. Does anyone know of such a book?

Also for discussion: Who would you like to include?

x-posted to faith_feminists

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Date:2006-09-24 06:55
Subject:Christian feminism
Mood: curious

Hi, I posted recently in faith_feminists and christianleft asking if anyone knew of any Christian feminism communities, and, if not, if anyone would join one, were I to start it myself.

Anyway, owl_of_minerva over at faith_feminists pointed me towards this community, which I somehow managed to miss in my original search.

I just wondered what people's feelings here would be about a community about Christianity and feminism (all Christian denominations, including Roman Catholicism). Would that be treading on any toes? Is there too much overlap? Or on the other hand, would anyone be interested in joining?

All feedback gratefully received. Thanks!

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Date:2006-03-05 13:04
Subject:Boston.com article
Mood: thoughtful

Should liberals leave Catholic Church?Collapse )


I don't quite know how I feel, as a liberal Catholic in the Boston area. My church has a GLBTA and a divorced Catholic's group, but apparently we are not in the norm.

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Date:2006-03-04 15:30

Sorry, y'all. I somehow accidentally posted here when I meant to post to my own LJ. If you saw the rant about snow, forget it; I've deleted it.

My B!

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Date:2006-02-06 11:38

“In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists”. --Eric Hoffer

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Date:2005-11-30 14:50
Subject:Consent to marriage, ius in corpus, and feminism

I'm a non Catholic taking a course in Canon Law, and I'm here asking for some help/input on my paper for the semester.

I've written about the evolution of consent to marriage from "ius in corpus", giving the perpetual and exclusive right to the body, to partnership and consortium, specifically as reflected in the Canadian journal of canon law Studio Canonica

My thesis is (basically) that something is missing from the discussion of consent in marriage, that even as it moves towards a much more progressive and mutual definition (for example, where a woman could potentially have the right to refuse sex with her husband), the language of discourse is strikingly gender neutral and scrupulous to avoid all reference to gender issues and feminism.

I submitted This paper for my midterm and will submit an expanded version of it for the final. I'm hoping to include some reference to contemporaneous feminist Catholic scholarship (in the '70s and '80s) to do some c&c. I am asking for direction/references for this question, and also for any other feedback or input you care to give.

Thanks so much!

(x-posted to catholicism)

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Date:2005-11-06 10:34

Pope put on the road to sainthood

I must admit I'm not surprised.

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Date:2005-11-04 13:45
Subject:Mary and a reading list
Mood: contemplative

Two questions for everyone:

What books would you recommend on the topics that are relevant to this community?

What are your thoughts/feelings on Mary and what the Church teaches about her?

Looking forward to your answers...

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Date:2005-10-24 23:22
Subject:Conflict of thoughts

I am sure this has been discussed before, but I have been out of the lj loop for a while.

This summer I started taking birth control for health reasons. I used to have extrememly heavy periods since starting college and had accidents all the time (even when shopping--so embarassing). I am almost 24 years old and I shouldn't be having these problems anymore. I went to the doctor to get my first pap smear and she commented on how pale I looked and asked me to get my hemoglobin levels checked (thankfully they were normal). She asked me if I had thought of taking birth control. I have friends who have taken birth control for similar reasons, but I always figured no I wouldn't take it for a number of reasons (cost, possible side effects, I was chaste). Taking birth control has made a night and day difference to me. Seriously. No more accidents, no more worries.

My question is this: when I get married someday I am going to want to continue on this birth control for exactly the same reasons I am taking it now. I don't want to have accidents when I sleep and ruin sheets, clothes, etc. I don't want to feel tired and sick when I have my period. If I am open to the possiblity of having children while I am taking this (because I know it's not 100% effective) is it wrong for me to take it? Has anyone here had to make this decision, and if so, what have you decided to do?

Thanks so much. It's been bothering me since I started taking it.

X-posted to Catholicism

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Date:2005-08-29 20:20
Subject:I don't know if I feel okay with this...
Mood: contemplative


So, from what I see, its okay to reunite with ultra conservatives who are abherant from the Vatican, but being liberal and little abherant (but not quiting the church) is not okay....

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Date:2005-07-18 14:27
Subject:"kitchen madonna"

Does this rub you the wrong way?

(link supplied by someone responding to an inquiry in that community... I'm watching to see if anyone responds as to the origins of such a statue.)

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Date:2005-06-28 13:13
Subject:A question.
Mood: feeling a tad cynical.

Hmmmm...so, how does one reconcile the "motherhood is sacred" and "the stay-at-home mother has the most important role in the Church" rhetoric with comments like "stay-at-home fathers are lazy" and "men don't have it so easy--they have to go out and WORK"?


And we SAHMs (and might-be SAHMs) are supposed to believe that we're actually valued by our co-religionist brothers? Am I smelling bovine excrement here? *grin*

(crossposted to catholicism.)

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Date:2005-06-25 12:47
Subject:Ordination of Women
Mood: hopeful

Hello. :)

My name is Margarita, and I am a supporter of the ordination of women.

Recently, I volunteered at www.womenpriests.org as a translator because I speak both English and Spanish.

I have been requested to look for any organizations in Spanish-speaking countries that promote women being ordained. Does anyone have any information that could help me? In fact, does anyone know of ANY organizations in any country that support this cause? We're trying to create global awareness and get as much support as we can.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I also highly recommend looking at the website OR the hub-website, www.catherineofsiena.net

Thank you!


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Date:2005-05-31 13:57
Subject:NFP and Humanae Vitae

There's an active thread in catholicism right now on NFP. The OP is asking for advice and I and many others are happy to share what we know from personal experience or knowledge passed from parents or friends.

Not surprisingly, the question on the reasoning for the Church's ban on "artificial" contraception was raised. Not infrequently, people make the guess that the reason has something to do with there being no real barrier if God wishes to bless a couple with a child. This is not true, and falls flat anyway, since NFP's rates are comparable to those for "artificial" contraception.

The main reason, as laid out in Humanae Vitae is actually prima facie in the question: natural vs. unnatural, a distinction that many do not find compelling.

Humanae Vitae goes on to explain the moral attitudes engendered by NFP compared to immoral attitudes such as objectification of the body and sex that it claims are engendered by artificial contraception.

To me, this reasoning is just as suspect. Anything can be abused, including NFP. What about the couples experiencing difficulty in getting pregnant who obsessively only schedule sex during the fertile period, and then only at 48 hour intervals to maximize sperm count? I think that kind of mindset is just as potentially damaging to marriage and objectifying of body and sex as any claimed in Humanae Vitae. I feel morality lies in intention and real outcomes. Pill aside (though I could get into how expulsion of fertilised ova is at least as inevitable and unpreventable under unmedicated circumstances, but I won't since I don't think this is reasoning explicitly addressed by HV,) artificial contraception are just devices, and don't by themselves become immoral. They can only become immoral under the initiative of some users, which does and doesn't happen with any method.

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Date:2005-05-19 12:59
Subject:Defying our Elders
Mood:trying not to grin

Right On.

This feels like the best place to write about what's on my mind.

I love my Church. I love being Catholic.

I HATE the )#$@_($%!@# hypocrites who use their patronizing powers to reduce the ability and power of women because they might be an embarassment.

The thing is this makes me think of commandment of Respect for Elders.

I dunno. I can go both ways. A private institution has a right to run its business however it deems necessary.

But I totally applaud the girl. It was ballsy. It was, dare I say, punk rock. It may have even required chutzpah. };>

I guess I'll break for "no harm no foul."

what do you think? please do try to consider the Commandment (eventhough it may be hard to, as I know it has been for me)

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Date:2005-05-11 14:33
Subject:Catholic Heresy
Mood: good

I've created catholic_heresy and I think it should be ready to go. Read the user info and if you think it's for you please feel free to join.

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Date:2005-05-06 01:06
Mood: contemplative

So... at the risk of starting up some kind of flame war I've come to share a thought I've been kicking around:

I been thinking of starting a community for folks with questions about Catholic doctrine and dogma, especially with matters on which we might not understand why the Church's position is to call it heresy or anathema.

the thing about it is I want to invite a variety of people from those who question but honestly want to learn to those who are highly versed in Catholic theology, history and so on. Sadly, I've previously never had the inclination to study theology and now that I work full time and can still barely pay my bills I really wish I had time left for a class or three on all the information that has made the Church what it is today.

What I would like to know is if there would be much interest - both from questioners and would be answers alike. Now, I understand that even well read theologians may have questions. Those would also be welcome!

Of course any such community that I would run would have strict rules against personal attacks, or in fact any judgement of others. This is of course to limit negative statements, not positive, but I would hope that it would be an informative community and any side conversations that spring up around first person narratives and anecdotes would hopefully be kept to a minimum.

All that I mean is that debate should be kept strictly to the topic and never descend to the personal.

Please, if you're interested let me know. Like I said all are invited (though I'm personally hoping a few choice theologians join in...). Speak up if you would like to see such a community.

(If your dislike of heresy is so great that you cannot contemplate the idea of Catholics talking openly about what makes a heresy a heresy, kindly resist the urge to both tell me not speak of them and, should such a community come into being, to join the community.)

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